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   Bob913  The large company I work at is going to fire thousands and thousands of people between now and Jan 1, 2014 due to obamacare. They have already been laying many many people off since obama and the democrats came to power in 2009.

The price hike they would have to charge to cover the cost of healthcare would be around 14% just to break even. All the other taxes that the democrats want would mean even higher charges. The company cannot even ask the customers for such a hike as the customer would say "take a hike!"

So thousands of people will lose their jobs to PAY for OBAMACARE!
February 14 at 00:38 EST .

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   Mike PHX  And your point is...?
Like, we didn't know this 5 years ago?
February 14 at 02:19 EST .

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   Gerty  Oh dear, looks like Mr.PHX has his years confused--Obamacare was not a reality 5 years ago.
February 14 at 09:33 EST .

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   Mike PHX  Dearest Gerty,
We were all definitely DEBATING Obamacare 5 years ago...if not sooner. Witness this new fad dreamed up by all the youg'uns of the time. I think they called it the Tea Party.
Those rascals!
February 14 at 12:21 EST .

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   Bob913  The 14% is the point along with the thousands of people being fired so the rest can get "free" healthcare.

Businesses across the country are firing millions or cutting hours under 32. This is but one example.

The news media does not report the cost.
February 14 at 12:36 EST .

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   Escaped commieny  Well Mr Mike, I can't qualify as a young'un and I am a member of the Strong Tea Party. Fad, you say ? I am flattered you call me a rascal, blush, be still my heart.
For your information we have and will continue to fight this take over of 1/6 of our economy, stop trying to be cute and get with the program, Try Beckett or Landmark foundation info. sigh...banging head on wall
February 14 at 12:37 EST .

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   Mike PHX  Most Esteemed Ex(hopefully ) Commie:
I was attempting to use a satiric method known, archaically I'll admit, as "sarcasm". My utmost apologies if I have failed in the effort.
I consider myself a member of the Party of Tea. And I am most assuredly a citizen who is senior.
Good day to you, Sir. (or Madam ).
February 14 at 13:02 EST .

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   Hikergal  The ones fighting this just don't get the same coverage as the ones for it do. It's an up hill struggle to get the word out, then get people to listen, finally understand and then get them involved too.
I do the best I can but like EC i often feel like I am banging my head against a brick wall or stuck in some blank void were everything I say is absorbed before it is heard.
February 14 at 13:08 EST .

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   Mike PHX  My point is that we brought all this up before, during and after this extra-constitutional POS was shoved down our throat. But because the so-called "opposition" - that we...WE...elected lacked the testicular fortitude to prevent it, I can only come to one conclusion:
We're doomed. And we did it to ourselves.
February 14 at 13:15 EST .

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   FL Homeschool Mom  I'm already paying $872 a month (COBRA plan ) for my family coverage, can't imagine what I'll be paying in a year or two. I priced other policies, but for each child my premium goes up -- I might be able to get it down a $100/month but with half the coverage. It's going to come out of my pocket either way.

So thankful my husband made sure he took care of us. I'm just thankful I have the money to pay it.
February 14 at 20:48 EST .

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   FL Homeschool Mom  And, you're all right about one thing -- a lot of people out there have NO CLUE what's coming. My homeschoolers know, but my other friends look at me like I have 2 heads when I tell them what is coming with Obamacare.
February 14 at 20:49 EST .

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   Balogreene  My semi-large company, all government contracts keeps updating us on sequestration. I'm lucky, our contract lasts another 14 months, and the money has been applied for that time. Then, as the team's technical writer, I'm one of 3 people that will take a couple of months to close the contract down. By then I'll be 62, I just hope there is something available for another few years. Else, I too will be in trouble.

I can't believe the number of contractors here in Northern VA who voted for Obama, thinking he did good things for us.
February 14 at 21:22 EST .


   Bettijo  I was one of the million+ tea partiers who went to Washington in September 2009, to protest this. (I was the one in the red shirt, ha ha. ) Of course at that time we did not realize the multitude of jobs to be lost, but just knew our taxes would go up. As it has turned out, it is much worse than we imagined it could ever get. And, I feel so helpless!
February 15 at 10:59 EST .


   Safetydude  'We have to pass the bill to know what's in it'.
Dame Nancy Pelosi.
February 15 at 21:14 EST .


   Spahrkl  my doctor has cut his office hours and I noticed the staff is smaller. He and his brother built this clinic and they did work for it, regardless of what the "O" says.

Just like Germany, people walk around and pay no attention to the evil which is surrounding them. They are distracted by bright lights, loud music, and someone who tells them they cannot think for themselves and someone on a stage can do it better. We are in a world of hurt and the carrot lure is active among those who refuse to use logic and think. Emotions exercised over intellect will betray you more often than not.
February 17 at 19:12 EST .