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   WRR0369 posted on Struan  Just thought I'd send sumpin' to you- you're light years ahead of puttin' stuff up. Well done.
July 16 at 19:55 EST .

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   WRR0369 posted on Struan  I went out to where my copy of the Decl. of Independance is and couldn't squint tight enough to see, so maybe you are doin' t'other. Eyes gettin' older w/ time.
July 10 at 22:16 EST .

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   WRR0369 posted on Struan  From a body snatcher from the same time period- thank you, thank you, thank you.
March 19 at 15:58 EST .

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   Struan posted on Main Page The Lobby  I like this Tee but I couldn't wear it - I's spend my whole day trying to explain the associative aspects of it to Demosheep.
   March 16 at 03:07 EST .

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   Kono  Now that's a great teeshirt.
March 16 at 03:41 EST .

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   Ynaught  Love it!
March 16 at 06:53 EST .

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   Ole buzzard  Where can I get one???
March 16 at 08:11 EST .

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   BirdsNest  It sort of loses something when it has to be translated. Great t-shirt, I would wear THAT one!
March 16 at 08:16 EST .

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   Nugoddess  Love the shirt! (Leave it to Struan to find something that cool.)
March 16 at 14:14 EST .

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   Struan posted on Main Page The Lobby  The picture below is Itamar, where the Fogel family members were slaughtered by the "Religion of Peace." In the background is the Palestinian "village" (as the NYT calls it) of Awarta. The New York Times reported that it was this proximity that sparked the slaughter, thusly - "the proximity underlining the visceral nature of the contest in this area between Jewish settlers and Palestinians over the land." So, the mere "nearness" of Jews is both motive & justification to butcher men, women & children in their sleep.

Victor Davis Hanson - "We are presently engaged in a world war for our civilization and its vision of a just and humane society. Our values will either endure this present struggle and indeed be invigorated by the ordeal, or like once great civilizations of the past we will stumble in the face of barbarism and lose all that we hold dear."

   March 13 at 16:52 EST .

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   OnTheBall  Struan, the American national news media is engaging in censorship of all the horrendous acts being committed by these folks from the 'religion of peace'! The lunatics in the alphabet outfits who're engaging in spreading marxism it seems are just as happy to see a spread of islamofacism! Whatever it takes to destroy Free Market Capitalist Western societies!
March 13 at 18:31 EST .

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   Silverlining  There is a powerful video tribute to this tragic murder at titled, Scenes from A Massacre .
Apparently the murder of these parents and children were celebrated in Gaza.
If you can view that video and not cry for them you might just have a stony heart.
March 13 at 20:35 EST .

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   Browneyes  Struan,as VDH writes, we are indeed stumbling right now, but,there is a slow,simmering resolve building abroad in this land. Had a conversation with a dyed-in-the-wool,JFK moon-doggy, who asked if I thought it possible the Democrats, somehow,could have a Primary and choose someone else to vote for in "12. Damn near dropped my egg roll.
March 13 at 20:58 EST .

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   Struan posted on Main Page The Lobby  re: Betty Jean's "tin foil hat post - Sure look like commercial aircraft to me.
   March 9 at 15:45 EST .

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   Struan posted on Main Page The Lobby  Why didn't Hollywood ever think of the wondrous Gene Tierney?
   March 8 at 18:55 EST .

   Surfhut  She is breathtakingly beautiful. From what I've read about her, she had a daughter with Oleg Cassini who had several birth defects. That's when she dropped out of Hollywood, to be a proper mother. It would be nice if Hollywood would recognize her motherly love on one of their award shows.
March 8 at 19:20 EST .

   Struan  Her grandaghter is Maura Tierney of Newsradio & ER fame.
March 8 at 19:28 EST .

   Rollingcow  I had no idea they were related, good genes tell don't they? I've always thought Maura Tierney to be very talented, really loved her in Newsradio.
Mrs. Cow
March 8 at 19:40 EST .

   OnTheBall  I was totally 'smitten' over Gene Tierney for ages.
March 8 at 21:29 EST .

   Labrador Heaven  Again, Maura Tierney is NO relation to Gene Tierney. None.
March 9 at 01:25 EST .

   Rake King  "I vant to be alone" kinda picture. They just don't make them like this anymore....hear that Paris!
March 9 at 12:04 EST .

   Struan posted on Main Page The Lobby  One of the things that's always bothered me about Hollywood's endess filming of the Trojan War is that I've never seen a Helen yet, that could launch a 1000 leaky rowboats, much less a thousand Greek warrior ships.Don't forget, Paris chose Helen over three goddeses in the beauty contest in Apple of Discord story that started the whole thing. Really?
   March 8 at 18:49 EST .

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   OnTheBall  For ages they thought that the tale about the fabled city of Troy and the war involving the Greeks was just a fable devised by Homer. It wasn't until the German archaeologist Howard Schliemann actually dug up the City of Troy in 1870, that it became a 'fact' of science and history.
March 8 at 18:58 EST .

   Struan  "Dug up" indeed. Schliemann actuallys used The Iliad as his guide to find it. (Kinda like George Patton using his WW1 era Michelin road map as his main catography for his jaunt across Europe in WWII). Digging a hundred foor deep trench through the middle of an ancient site isn't exactly responsible archaeology. Then again, we weren't as sophisticated as we are today. Give the man his due though - he found what "mainstream" archaeology said was myth.
March 8 at 19:07 EST .

   OnTheBall  Struan I literally 'cringe' when I read about the trenches that American farmers dug all over America thru known indian burial sites and other 'structures' of unknown significance.

Fortunately, the Great Serpant figure that no one really knows was all about back in the day. There is speculation as to it possibly being connected to an ancient race called Adena people (800 BC - AD 100).
March 8 at 21:37 EST .

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   OnTheBall  Fortunately, the Great Serpent figure was saved...
March 8 at 21:38 EST .

   Iacta alea est  Back to the original subject, when she was Helen's age Cheryl Tiegs' face could've launched 1000 ships and a few moon rockets before lunch. But alas, she wasn't an actress.
March 9 at 00:38 EST .

   Shooter1002  Cheryl Tiegs? A Mediteranean beauty? Viking, maybe!
Think more Anna Magnani.
I'm not so sure how beautiful Helen was in reality either. They married them off pretty young in those days so she had some mileage on her when Paris visited. Probably had a few kids as well. Paris took her back to Troy for a reason. She probably had a few kids in Troy too while the Mycenaeans were building those 1,000 ships and convincing their warriors to run off to Troy and fight a 10 year war over some dude's ol'lady who got a little horny over the new pool boy.
Perhaps Helen was a euphemism for treasure Paris stole in a Trojan raid on Mycenaean Greece?
Anyway, how pretty could she have been? There were plenty of pretty girls around. Why would a rich and powerful king launch the Normandy invasion and fight a ten year war because his SIL was a little tramp? Surely Priam, Menelaus and Agamemnon could agree on Paris keeping Helen in trade for, let's just say, 100 15 year old virginal Asian captive cuties? Makes a lot more sense to me.
My bet is that after 10 years Paris probably would've sent her back with no hard feelings.
Wouldn't a tourist business between Mycenae
and Troy make more sense?
Visit Troy! Visit Sparta!
March 9 at 06:51 EST .

   DONAL  Um.... Shooter, maybe she was smart, or honorable, or faithful, or honest, or had exemplary values..or any number of additional reasons + her beauty was why she was so prized.

(That actress is a pouty little thing!)
March 9 at 07:53 EST .

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   Hammersdad  At least with the featured actress picture they may have gotten the hair color in the right range. The Achaeans of that day tended to be large, tall, and much blonder than their later descendants. Same with the ancient patrician Romans.

That's not surprising. There is more linking the Romans to Troy than the Aeneid.

As to Helen, let's not forget that the Achaeans, as today's Greeks, referred to themselves as 'Hellenes'. I'm pretty sure there's a reason for this - maybe the same reason as for the Trojan War.

March 9 at 09:02 EST .

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   Shooter1002  Faithful?? Isn't that what this war was all about?
Values?? She leaves her kids to run off with the Bronze Age version of Troy Donohue?? Gimme a break.
I'll give her 'smart' though! Who would want to live with some old bearded creep. From Sparta of all places. All they thought about was fighting! Fight, fight fight! Helen had feelings! Ol' Menelaus never thought about her feelings. All he did was practice fighting all day, come home drunk and 'slam bam, thank you mam'.
Talk about frustrated housewives!

I strongly suspect that there were 2 prominent reasons why she was so 'prized'. From what I've read, there were no Maidenforms back then and a trip to the museum dispels any wonder why there were no Bada-Bing clubs either. Why spend $500 on lap dances when a trip to the agora on a chilly day will do just fine.
Which takes me to my Theory of History. Women's breasts have had more influence/impact on history than anything else!
As with most of the theories from my math courses, the proof of this theory is left as an exercise for the reader.
March 9 at 09:02 EST .

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   Persecutor2  Actually, Paris chose Venus, who "gave" him Helen...and my guess is, it wasn't her beauty, it was the principle of the thing... ;-)
March 9 at 12:02 EST .

   Struan posted on Main Page The Lobby  Notn to belanor the point (but obviously so) when you pull into the gas station, you expect to fill yo're tank - right? When you go to the supermarket, you expect to find TP on the shelves - right? Who do you think guarantees the ncessities are there?
   March 4 at 05:37 EST .

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   MMC  My thanks to our military....
March 4 at 08:35 EST .

   Struan posted on Main Page The Lobby  Ahhhhhh, yes - "summering" on Vashon. .05% of the American population (the military) protects 99.05% of the American population. I pewfwe Eliza Island myself.
   March 4 at 05:17 EST .

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   Belwhatter  struan, Eliza island has an interesting history. The early settlers had strong resolve, rowing their produce[ eggs?] to the mainland and loading up with fresh water to return - I believe they built a seawater purification plant after a while - is it still in use?
March 4 at 13:35 EST .

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