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   GO3  I'm in a trivia quiz mood today. What Allied WWII general said the following?

"Do not needlessly endanger the lives of your troops until I give you the signal."
July 12 at 21:49 EST .

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   Mike PHX  GO, I'm not sure who, but he definitely sounds Polish.
July 13 at 02:29 EST .

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   GO3  Not Polish, but he may be forgiven for uttering an incomplete sentence which could have been clarified with a few more words.
July 13 at 03:27 EST .

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   GO3  Hint: Not Monty, Patton or MacArthur.
July 13 at 12:06 EST .

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   Mike PHX  Bradley.
I don't know, but he's the only one left I can think of.
July 14 at 22:19 EST .

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   GO3  Good try, but it was Ike. While invasion troops were marshaling in England, a lot of high intensity training was going on with casualties (e.g., the Sullivan brothers ). Ike's intent was to have units dial it back a bit and save strength for the invasion. Unfortunately, his directive came out as being silly. Heck, no one is perfect.

You mention Bradley. JMO but I think he was way overrated.
July 14 at 22:41 EST .

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   Mike PHX  Agreed. From what I heard he was...well...not the best. Strategically or otherwise.
July 15 at 00:09 EST .

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   MeiDei  I like incomplete sentences unless they involve murderers, rapists, pedophiles & traitors; and no Polish jokes unless they're really funny! [I gotta keep an eye on you two] lol
July 15 at 09:17 EST .

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   Mike PHX  Mei, what the
July 15 at 10:47 EST .

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   MeiDei  I was referring to GO3 (7 posts above this one ) to lighten [insert silly humor] - but if you two are bantering vs. baiting each other - I'm good with that - well no, I'm VERY good with that - humor always welcomed.
July 15 at 14:29 EST .

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   Mike PHX  Jeez, joke was about you liking incomplete sentences.
Having to explain jokes makes them meaningless. GO and I are great I think...great minds, and all that.
I hope we're the same.
July 16 at 01:06 EST .

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   GO3  July 2 in military history:

1775 – George Washington arrives in Boston and takes over as commander-in-chief of the new Continental Army.
1862 – Flag Officer L. M. Goldsborough’s fleet covers the withdrawal of General McClellan’s army after a furious battle with Confederate forces under General Robert E. Lee at Malvern Hill.
1863 – Gettysburg: General Robert E. Lee’s Army of Northern Virginia attacks General George G. Meade’s Army of the Potomac at both Culp’s Hill and Little Round Top, but fails to move the Yankees from their positions.
1926 – The U.S. Army Air Corps is created by Congress as is the Distinguished Flying Cross.
1943 – The American buildup on Rendova Island continues but the Japanese garrison continues to resist. During the night a Japanese naval force bombards the American positions with little effect.

1943 – The U.S. Army Air Corps 99th Fighter Squadron, the Tuskegee Airmen finally see combat. Then Lieutenant Charles B. Hall of Brazil, Indiana becomes the first Tuskegee Airman to score a confirmed kill when he shoots down a German FW-190. Photo: Captain Charles B. Hall.

1944 – On Saipan, American forces conduct a general advance. Garapan village is overrun.
1945 – The submarine USS Barb fires rockets on Kaihyo Island, off the east coast of Karafuto (Sakhalin ) Island. It is the first American underwater craft to fire rockets in shore bombardment.
1950 – USS Juneau and 2 British ships sink 5 of 6 attacking North Korean torpedo boats and gunboats. This is the only significant naval engagement of the Korean War.
1967 – The U.S. Marine Corps launches Operation Buffalo in response to the North Vietnamese Army’s efforts to seize the Marine base at Con Thien.

   July 1 at 23:38 EST .

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   Mike PHX  Whoa whoa whoa, GO. Arent you forgetting the Gulf of Tonkin?
July 2 at 01:10 EST .

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   GO3  You had me going for a minute. I re-checked and the incident took place on August 2.
July 2 at 02:27 EST .

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   Mike PHX  November 11th, 1885 - George S. Patton is born.
Eventually, he gets back most of what Montgomery and his "men" had run shrieking away from.
He won North Africa. He beat Rommel.
Montgomery and his lot were having tea.
June 26 at 01:27 EST .

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   GO3  Monty was fond of "rest, refit, and refuel" rather than "attack until you run out fuel, then get out and walk."
June 26 at 02:19 EST .

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   GO3  ...meant to add to the end of the comment: which was Patton's philosophy.
June 26 at 06:00 EST .

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   Mike PHX  Because you only win by attacking. Resting, refitting and refueling, turns you into "Great Britain".
June 27 at 21:24 EST .

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   GO3  More than anything, Patton understood American culture and our collective psyche. For a European, time and distance was very limited compared to an American. Advances of 10 - 20 miles for a European army was considered a good day. In WWII, the American soldier would consider an advance of 50 - 80 miles (a tankful of gas for a Sherman ) to be the norm. Patton made use of that mentality. His own family had migrated from the confines of the Eastern seaboard to Southern California in the typical entrepreneurial spirit of the day. Therefore, coupled with his military knowledge, he had a much larger vision of the battlefield.
June 27 at 22:42 EST .

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   Mike PHX  Rommel...Rommel you magnificent ....
I read your book!
June 27 at 23:53 EST .

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   GO3  June 26 in military history:

1775 - Washington visits NY en route to assume command of the army at Boston.
1857 - Queen Victoria awards the first Victoria Crosses in Hyde Park, decorating 62 veterans of the Crimea
1917 - First American combat troops arrive in France. In June only 14,000 American troops managed to reach France. American Expeditionary Force Commanding General, John J. "Blackjack" Pershing, remained adamant that US troops would not be sent to Europe until they were fully trained. It took until May 1918 for troop strength to reach one million. Photo: First US troops arrive in France, June 1917.
1943 - Since Dec 7, 1941, Japan has lost 2 million tons of shipping
1978 - Breton separatists bomb the Palace of Versailles

   June 26 at 00:00 EST .

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   GO3  Comments on Lawrence of Arabia:

I liked the movie and understandably films have to enhance the role of the main protagonist. However, a bit of myth busting is in order. Lawrence's desert army was an important adjunct to the Sinai/Palestine Campaign in WWI but not the main effort. In the movie, General Allenby (Jack Hawkins ) is presented as some kind of stick-in-the-mud schemer, when in fact he was the one who actually ran a highly effective decentralized campaign the desert environment called for. What's not shown is Lawrence's forces were part of the larger tactical maneuver wherein he helped the main forces achieve their objectives. There were exceptions of course, but by and large, Allenby's leadership was the key to victory.
   June 24 at 23:39 EST .

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   GO3  June 19 in military history:

1778 - Washington's troops leave Valley Forge
1864 - CSS Alabama is sunk by USS Kearsarge off Cherbourg
1865 - Slaves in Texas are freed by Union forces
1937 - Franco's Nationalists capture Bilbao from the Republicans
1944 - "Marianas Turkey Shoot" - Battle of the Philippine Sea: The battle was the last major "carrier-versus-carrier" engagements between American and Japanese naval forces. The aerial part of the battle was nicknamed the Great Marianas Turkey Shoot by American aviators for the severely disproportional loss ratio inflicted upon Japanese aircraft by American pilots and anti-aircraft gunners. Although at the time the battle appeared to be a missed opportunity to destroy the Japanese fleet, the Imperial Japanese Navy had lost the bulk of its carrier air strength and would never recover. By the end of the battle, the Japanese had lost three carriers and 426 aircraft; the US lost around 70 planes. Painting: Hellcats of VF 16 from Task Force 58 during the Marianas Turkey Shoot.
1944 - French troops free Elba from the Nazis
1947 - An F-80 becomes the first plane to exceed 600 mph
1948 - USSR blocks access to West-Berlin: Berlin Blockade begins

   June 19 at 01:53 EST .

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   GO3  June 14 in military history:

1777 - Congress replaces the "Grand Union Flag" with the "Stars & Stripes"
1777 - John Paul Jones takes command of the USS Ranger
1815 - Napoleon opens the Waterloo Campaign

1847 - Commodore Matthew C Perry initiates campaign at Tabasco, Mexico. On 14 June Perry assembled the Mosquito Fleet off Frontera and began moving upstream to capture the last open port of San Juan Bautista (present day Villahermosa ). After several land and naval engagements, the last port on the Gulf Coast was captured. Painting: Commodore Perry lands troops at Tabasco, Mexico.

1861 - Flag Day first observed, Hartford, Ct.
1917 - Gen John J. Pershing and his staff reach Paris
1940 - Germans occupy Paris
1940 - The Nazis open concentration camps at Auschwitz and Oranienburg
1942 - The bazooka goes into production at Bridgeport, Ct
1982 - Falklands: Argentinian forces surrender to the Brits; 74-day war ends
1985 - Lebanese Shiite gunmen hijack TWA 847 after takeoff from Athens

   June 14 at 00:59 EST .

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   GO3  June 11 in military history:

1798 - Bonaparte captures Malta en route to Egypt
1861 - Maj R. B. Hayes, Pvt Wm McKinley, and the rest of the 23rd Ohio muster into federal service
1882 - Moslems massacre 300 Christians at Alexandria, Egypt
1927 - Charles A. Lindbergh becomes the first man awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross, at City Hall, NY
1943 - Allies land on Pantelleria, Italy

1943 - Kiska: Japanese submarine 'I-9' possibly sunk by USS Frazier (DD-607 ). Early in the foggy morning of 10 June, with Lieutenant Commander Elliot M. Brown in command, the Frazier she made two separate attacks on radar contacts which were believed to be submarines. In the second attack, the destroyer's guns fired for five minutes as she pursued her target until its radar echo merged with land echo of Kiska. Late that night and again on the morning of 11 June, Frazier dropped depth charges on two different underwater contacts, but was unable to determine the results of these attacks; it is likely she sank I-9 in one of them. Photo: USS Frazier.

1977 - Dutch Marines rescue hostages on a train held by Moluccan terrorists
1982 - Lebanon: cease fire between Israel and Syria

   June 11 at 01:17 EST .

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   GO3  June 6 in military history:

1757 - Battle of Prague: Frederick the Great of Prussia defeats the Austrians
1775 - NY patriots prevent the Royal Governor from removing munitions from the city
1862 - River Battle off Memphis: Yank gunboats defeat Rebs
1898 - US Marines land at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba
1898 - Action at Santiago, Cuba: US ships exchange fire with Spanish batteries
1918 - US Marines secure Belleau Wood
1943 - Aleutians Campaign: Japanese decide to evacuate Kiska

1944 - D-Day, Operation Overlord. Overlord was the code name for the Battle of Normandy, the Allied operation that launched the successful invasion of German-occupied Western Europe during World War II. The operation was launched with the Normandy landings (Operation Neptune, commonly known as D-Day ). A 1,200-plane airborne assault preceded an amphibious assault involving more than 5,000 vessels. Nearly 160,000 troops crossed the English Channel on 6 June, and more than two million Allied troops were in France by the end of August. Photo: Amphibious shipping at Omaha Beach.

1944 - BG Theodore Roosevelt, Jr., Assistant Division Commander of the 4th Infantry Division, earns a Medal of Honor on Utah Beach. A little over one month after the landing at Utah Beach, Roosevelt died of a heart attack in Méautis, France. He had spent part of the day in a long conversation with his son, Captain Quentin Roosevelt II, who had also landed at Normandy on D-Day. BG Roosevelt was fifty-six years old.

1944 - Waffen SS murder Canadian prisoners at Normandy
1945 - Okinawa: Marines capture Naha airfield
1982 - 30,000 Israeli troops invade Lebanon to drive out the PLO

   June 5 at 23:55 EST .

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   Gram77  I've missed these history lessons. Thanks!
   June 5 at 14:52 EST .

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   GO3  You're welcome!
June 5 at 23:35 EST .

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   GO3  June 4 in military history:

1745 - Battle of Hohenfriedberg: Frederick the Great defeats Austrians & Saxons
1763 - The Chippewa capture Fort Michilimackinac from the English
1854 - Anti-Catholic Riot in Brooklyn: Radical Protestant preachers incite violence against Catholics, who retaliate, requiring the intervention of the 14th Militia
1918 - US & French halt the Germans at Chateau-Thierry
1940 - Miracle of Dunkirk ends: over 300,000 troops evacuated, prompting Winston Churchill's "We shall fight them on the beaches . . . " speech

1942 - Battle of Midway: Japanese lose four CVs, USS 'Yorktown' badly damaged. This was the turning point in the Pacific Theater of World War II. Between 4 and 7 June 1942, only six months after Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor and one month after the Battle of the Coral Sea, the United States Navy under Admirals Chester Nimitz, Frank Jack Fletcher, and Raymond A. Spruance decisively defeated an attacking fleet of the Imperial Japanese Navy under Admirals Isoroku Yamamoto, Chuichi Nagumo, and Nobutake Kondo near Midway Atoll, inflicting devastating damage on the Japanese fleet that proved irreparable. Military historian John Keegan called it "the most stunning and decisive blow in the history of naval warfare." Painting: USN dive bombers attack Japanese carriers near Midway atoll.

1944 - Allied forces liberate Rome
1944 - The USS Guadalcanal (CVE-60 ) Anti-sub Group takes U-505; first USN capture of a foreign warship at sea since 1815
1945 - Okinawa: 6th Marine Division secures the Orokoe Peninsula
1976 - Puerto Rican nationalists detonate a bomb in the Cook County Courthouse, Chicago, sparking rioting in some areas
1989 - Chinese troops fire on democracy advocates in Tiananmen Square, Beijing; hundreds die

   June 4 at 00:48 EST .

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