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   Jerseytomato  BirdsNest - I always say, you are a wonder! I haven't posted anything about my garden because after spending the day in my garden, I shower, take two motrin, and slip into a coma. Thank goodness for heating pads.

My question is - do you ever get a stiff back or sore arms? Could you tell us what kind of vitamins you take?
May 19 at 07:33 EST .

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   BirdsNest  Jerseytomato-you gave me the first and best laugh of this day....'and slip into a coma' !!! I did just that last night after being in the garden mostly all day and sweating buckets. I was just too tired to try to stay awake. I was fighting getting watermelon plants in the ground. What looked like an easy peasy job was a nightmare. A 10'x25' bed needed black plastic put down with a soaker hose beneath. Well I got it done, it looks like you-know-what and all I can say is I hope the plants live and grow quickly to cover up the look of the bed.

As for vitamins...just the usual Vit D3, calcium, magnesium, potassium, B complex and Turmeric curcumin.
And if leg cramps hint they are coming I pop 2 cramp pills and a muscle relaxer. Last night I slept really good, woke up at 5:30.

Stiff back? Yes. Sore arms? Absolutely. I just take an aspirin and go on.
May 20 at 06:54 EST .

   Jerseytomato  Bird - I just slathered myself in Aspercreme, and now I'm heading out to do some morning weeding. later, I'm off to the vitamin store. I'm going to take exactly what you do, and see if that helps. Despite feeling like I've been hit by a truck, I'm not giving up. All these aches and pains may be due to 'early in the season.' You worked so hard yesterday - I'm sure your 10 x 25 bed is beautiful! Keep the faith, Bird! You are in inspiration to us all!
May 20 at 07:17 EST .

   BirdsNest  Wednesday was a busy day of getting another row ready for planting. The ground was moist so the soil was a bit harder to rake , but when it came to digging the trench for the plastic, the soil was easy to dig up and easy to place back in the trench with the edge of the plastic. Got a 75' row planted with tomatillos, red lipstick peppers, and yellow lipstick peppers. Today I knew it was going to rain so I managed to rake a 75' row and get it marked off for putting down plastic. I had hoped to be able to get the pimento peppers in the ground, but all I could get done was 50' of the row. That part will be ready to plant tomorrow. It has rained 3/4" today so far. And it's cool. Hagar had 2 doctor appts today. Seems the surgeon wanted the pre op tests done here. So they are now all done, leading up to the surgery on the 26th. He is tired from all the running around today, can't say I blame him.
Thursday at 18:15 EST .

   BirdsNest  Been busy with the garden and keeping up with the gazillion plants we have potted for our use and for sale. I re-potted some of them because they were getting root bound, that took several hours. Our friend came today and tilled a big chunk of the garden for us. Now I can get the watermelon planted, okra,& more peppers. She brought me a burn barrel, so I placed it by the garden and I will use it to burn pine cones, limbs and nasty weeds. The ashes will go back into the garden. She alerted me to some volunteer potatoes coming up-I had seen them but chose to ignore them. Since she made such a big deal out of them I felt compelled to dig them up and planted them in a big tub, mixing some garden soil with Black Kow and compost. So those got planted. She did a great job and tomorrow I will start working out there. It was simply too hot this afternoon, I was already hot and sweaty from earlier. I had to water most of the garden(soaker hoses ) and re-water the potted plants. Anyway, I planted 5 Red Pear tomatoes, 6 Pear drops(yellow pear ) I think they are cherry sized, not sure. Also, got 6 Ghost Peppers planted, bunch of Corno di toro Rosso(marconi type ), Rosa Bianca eggplant, and Shooting Stars eggplant. Peas are blooming, Swiss Chard is ready to eat, beets are looking good and the carrots? Kind of spotty coming up, also got the Hull-less pumpkin planted. Tomorrow I will get the plastic down for the watermelon and set those plants out just before dark. If there is time I will get the other pepper row ready with plastic....we shall see.

Who else is spending time in the garden????????
May 18 at 21:45 EST .

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   BirdsNest  Radishes-soon
Swiss Chard-ate some young leaves in with salad, along with broccoli raab, escarole and some young Chinese cabbage leaves.The romaine was store bought but the other greens were ours.
Beets-planted and just coming up
carrots-up and need weeding(ugh )
peas-beautiful but not yet blooming
onions and garlic-looking good(if I can keep the Guineas away from snacking on the tips )
Beans-3 kinds coming up after replanting(cool nights not good for germination ).
cucumbers-lots of different kinds, some bush, some climbers all on black plastic
zucchini & patty pan squash-set out plants on black plastic, now I need to plant some yellow squash for us
Gourds-lots of different ones plus Luffa, all near the fenceline-Hagar is not amused.
Watermelon-plants are up, their bed is not yet ready
Hull-less pumpkin-same as watermelon
tomatillos-plants have been potted til; they get big enough to set out
mexican sour gherkin-same as above
bell peppers-waiting to get bigger to set out
Corno di Toro Rosso sweet peppers- soon to be large enough to set out
hot peppers- getting bigger every day, waiting for me to get their bed ready
mini sweet peppers and lipstick peppers- same as all the other peppers
Red Pear tomatoes- some are ready to set out, the remainder are growing
herbs-oregano,lovage,basil,marjoram,garlic chives,chives,curly parsley,cilantro(out of 72 cells planted only half germinated )
ground cherries-cutest little plants ever, waiting for them to grow bigger to set them out.
cushaw squash-no seeds have germinated for me, may have to buy the squash from the same place as last year. bummer.
Lots to do and I am hoping to be able to work some garden time in tomorrow after we leave the sale. Local feed store is having their animal swap/sale and we can sell our plants there and the relishes because they are made here. Hope to have a good day, need to buy soaker hoses and plastic. And soil to re-pot.
It has been busy here, Hagar feels like heck, no energy and little appetite, so I am doing what I can to keep things going. Some days are better than others.
May 8 at 20:42 EST .

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   BirdsNest  Would love to hear from others....please share.
May 8 at 20:43 EST .

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   Balogreene  I think I am going to clean out my deck pots this weekend, if it doesn't rain. Then, next weekend will buy stuff and plant it! Way behind the 8-ball, but I usually don't start til Memorial Day.
May 8 at 22:04 EST .

   Balogreene  Bird, did I ever tell you, my college roommate sent me a letter and mentioned she had "walked the beans". She was a farm girl, I was a city girl. I said I knew about walking babies, and walking dogs, and walking hand-in-hand, how the heck did you "walk the beans"? She did inform me. Good luck to you both, and good-health to Hagar!
May 14 at 18:29 EST .

   BirdsNest  Tomato plants set out in the garden...5 Red Pear, large pear shaped meaty tomatoes weighing from 8-18 oz each. I also planted the Mexican sour gherkins. Managed to get to WM today to buy some black plastic so I can continue to get rows ready. I have many pepper plants to get set in the ground. The hot peppers are being placed apart from all others and themselves so we can make sure the seed is pure for next year. Today we sold 15 Ghost peppers. The Scoville scale for them is from 855,00-1,041,427. Now we are growing these for sale as plants only and are keeping some so we can have our own seed next year. Seeds are very expensive. There are only 2 peppers that rank higher than the Ghost. Those we sold today were more of a conversation piece for the buyers. Sold numerous jalapenos and the only habaneros we had that were big enough. We have so many different peppers it isn't funny! It was an enjoyable day and we stayed over an hour later than usual.

Balo...walking the beans probably meant walking the rows and chopping weeds. Hagar had that job as a youngster.
May 16 at 16:21 EST .

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   Surfhut  Bird! I can't talk about my garden because I don't have one. Not yet. Hope to get moved in a month and not miss planting season. You know I will do my level best to get at least some tomatoes and cukes and tons of herbs planted this year.
May 2 at 19:02 EST .

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   StarFire  I’m so frustrated with our garden right now that I’m concentrating on plants that will thrive on neglect.

This is our senior cat, Baloo, in last fall’s pot of catnip. It was the first thing to recover from the bad winter. It has spread to the artichoke bed (they only lasted one summer ) and the bed on the west side. We’re going to let it have those areas. Our three cats and the neighbor’s cats love rolling in the catnip. I don’t usually grow non-food items, but this provides entertainment and (after we wash off the cat hair ) herbal tea.

   May 1 at 15:20 EST .

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   BirdsNest  Since I am the only one willing to talk about my garden, here goes.
The young man on the tractor came on Sat. afternoon and spent 2.5 hrs tilling the spot, he went over it several times to the instructions of Hagar. Hagar wanted to throw the kid off the tractor and do it himself. The young man did a beautiful job, he even stopped once to ask if I needed help with moving the ducks pen. Since I wasn't sure what I was going to do, I thanked him and said I could manage. It's a really big area now. Our friend that did the first part of the garden called Sunday morning and said she was coming over to work on the garden, Hagar told her to come on. She walked her tiller to the edge of the garden, looked up and said"You got someone else to do it!!" I told her we needed her to get the spots the tractor could not get to and that we just couldn't see her struggle with that large of an area since it would have taken her several days of 3 hour stretches. She was actually relieved. She did the parts we needed done, took maybe 20 minutes. We enjoyed talking to her and her partner, sent them home with chicken eggs, duck eggs, and 3 seedlings for their garden. They are going to share some ghost pepper seeds with us, I am excited! We have 27 asparagus plants up, we got 2.25 inches of rain last night. Beans are up. The only thing I did today was pot up about 75 seedlings( all peppers, both sweet and hot ). Biker Billy jalapeno seeds are starting to pop up. I still have a BUNCH of seedlings to pot. Bought about 1000 3" pots from our friend, he said he doesn't need so many anymore. Now I am in search of 1 gal pots for potting up berry bushes, we have blk raspberry and thornless blackberry that need to be potted up and moved.
   April 20 at 20:15 EST .

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   Flaming Sword  I'm not talking about gardening because I'm now not doing any. We had a KILLER hailstorm this weekend. It lasted about an hour.And it totally destroyed, I mean totally,every little seedling (and some not so little ) that I had. I was hoping to find a few I could trim a bit, but everything was destroyed completely. I now know how farmers must feel to see everything destroyed by freak weather happenings. At least my gardening is by choice and not necessity. Now I have to go out this weekend and see if there are still any nurseries with tomato, pepper plants and the like. It's a bit late here ,I may be out of luck.
April 22 at 16:17 EST .

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   BirdsNest  So sorry for your loss of plants FS, it can happen at any time during the season and it is awful. I hate to hear of it. We have a small storm blowing through and I made sure I got plants under cover. We have not set anything out in the garden as yet.
April 22 at 19:20 EST .

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   Clipped wings  Birdie, you amaze me. Your energy (during stressful times ) and dedication to gardening is an inspiration. We don't have the ground, equipment or help available to have a decent garden. With our physical condition we are experimenting with a hay bale garden. It's off to a slow start. That is alright since the temps are still fairly cool and very wet here in north AL. We are still in the first steps of conditioning the bales. Tomatoes, squash will be our crop when ready. We love the black krim tomatoes and hope some plants will be available. Have any of you had success/failure/experience with hay bale gardening?
April 23 at 12:02 EST .

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   Balogreene  Well, I've been working like a dog lately. Finally finished. But, going on vacation Saturday the 25th. I will start gardening when I come back the first week of May. So glad we have more daylight!
April 23 at 21:10 EST .

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   BirdsNest  Balo with the weather today, 45F and windy, you may just be on target for planting your garden in May. Last Saturday and Wednesday we watched people buy tomatoes, peppers, eggplant plants for setting out. Sorry folks, the ground is too cool yet for those, at least around here. We have the van filled with flats of seedlings in various heights. They come out during the day and go in the van at night. We have 8 flats in the house and 3 flats with seeds just starting to come up. Plus the 2 trays we use for starting seeds-I spent a couple of hours yesterday potting basil, peppers,& French Thyme. I still have many more to do, I hope it gets warm enough outside to get them done. I am on my 3rd bag of potting mix in one week. So far no sign of life on the fig trees. I am heartbroken. We drove by the nursery in Va Beach that has nice fig trees.Did not stop. There is no room in the budget for buying fig trees.There are plenty of other things that are high on my list to acquire like black plastic and soaker hoses.
April 24 at 08:05 EST .

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   StarFire  What garden? We are still container gardening (mostly squash & tomatoes ). My daughter's container lemons and oranges have set some fruit. I'm glad all that hauling them in and out with the freezes paid off.

My asparagus amazingly survived and we have harvested some. The cherries and blueberries were in full bloom when we had another freeze and snow. Not one berry set. Last week we had another hard frost. This winter froze back the blackberries, but it's just saving me from making some pruning decisions.

I'd blame it all on N. Tennessee weather, but my cousins all across Texas have had hail this week. This winter has been hard all across the country.
April 26 at 22:07 EST .

   BirdsNest  I am taking plants in at night and out during the day. I have over 700 plants to put in the garden and some to sell. I will have lots of one pepper to sell, did not realize there were so many of those(! ). Our friend brought by some Ghost pepper seeds. They are pricey to buy, she left me all she had, she is too busy working 3 jobs to start seedlings. I will plant them and give her some to grow. She also gifted us gourd seeds, several different types, Hagar wanted to choke her, says we don't have the space for them all. We shall see. Right now I have some of the gourd seeds on damp paper towels to see if they are viable. When they sprout, I will put them in peat pots. For all squash plants and cukes it is best to either seed directly into the garden soil or plant in peat pots, then put the entire pot in the garden soil so as not to disturb the root system.
April 28 at 08:25 EST .

   BirdsNest  We had a really good day Saturday. Went to the tracks, sold a few things, talked with EVERYBODY! and Hagar walked around a bit. We left there at noon, had an errand to do, came home and then went right back out to get some plastic mesh for the chicken pen. Our lookout spotted some in a dumpster and told us to get it, and we did. Then we dug up 17 blueberry shoots and potted them. Had a nice dinner, watched a movie and went to bed around 11:30. Neither of us could get to sleep right away so we talked and giggled like 2 kids for over an hour. Finally I told Hagar to shut up and go to sleep. It was funny. But it was a great day.

Today I potted up some basil seedlings. Started working on taking the cross fence down on the west side of the garden. The farmer that works our back 2 acres is sending a kid on a tractor with a tiller to break up the west side that has grown up into grass and was used for the last 2 years as a run for the chickens. I have a lot of work to do to get it ready for him for Saturday.

I finished the chicken pen today, got the mesh up so the chickens can't get out. Looks lousy but I don't care, all I want is for it to keep them inside.

Removed the straw from the asparagus row, found one little asparagus shoot coming up, hope there will be more.

Tired now, it was another busy day.

I did get 3 rows of beans planted before the rain on Friday night. That was a lot of work but glad to get them done.

Anyone else planting??? Would love to read about anyone's progress.
April 12 at 20:54 EST .

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   Gerty  Planning on planting garlic this year. Sick of paying almost $1 a head!
April 13 at 18:20 EST .

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   BirdsNest  Most people plant garlic in the Fall, before the end of Oct. We were at a workshop yesterday(composting ) and the last part of the day we were at a nearby farm where they actually put together a large pile of compost while we watched. The chicken manure pile had a bit of fragrance to it. And the rotting piles of sweet potatoes smelled, well-sweet.
The farmer had just planted an experimental bed of garlic...there was lots of it. I have a few plants that wintered over and they are nice and big, plus I planted 2 heads that sprouted. If you are lucky enough to be able to get local garlic, save some out to plant for the following season. Much of the garlic sold in stores is from China or Mexico, watch for USA grown for eating and planting. Garlic scapes are delicious, but I need more instruction to be able to use them properly.
April 17 at 06:40 EST .

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   BirdsNest  I have a busy day planned today, still have about half of a large area to clear of weed stalks for tomorrow. The farmer is sending over a kid on a tractor with tiller to break up the ground for us. We are adding a big chunk to the garden this year, still have many seeds to plant to get ready. Hagar has a project to do, hope he feels up to doing it. Tomorrow we go to the tracks for flea marketing, weather will be lovely early so we have to get there early.Like 6 am, lucky for us it is about a mile away.
April 17 at 06:44 EST .

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   Alice  Roundup (glyphosate ) is used by most of our neighbors, though at our house we put up with weeds among the grass and think 'meadow'. We mow regularly, so from a distance it looks just about the same as lawns and we have not had complaints, thank God.

Since glyphosate use is more or less ubiquitous in agriculture, I hope Monsanto is right and that it's completely safe to eat non-organic foods since that's what we do. I've considered finding a lab to analyze flour, corn, and meat we buy, but had not really gotten that started.

Apparently a lot other people share my doubts and have done what I have only thought about doing so far, and are requesting independent tests. I hope some of the results will be shared with the rest of us:
April 11 at 16:06 EST .

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   BirdsNest  Hagar likes to call it "PrairieFication" when we don't get the lawn mowed. He can't ride the mower and I usually try to keep what grass we have beat down with the weed whacker.
April 12 at 20:55 EST .

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   Alice  Yes, prairie! That actually fits our location much better than meadow, since it's prone to droughts and there's no real forest. And sometimes I'm sorry to mow, because I like the little flowers -- so do bees and butterflies. But there's usually something for them anyway.
April 14 at 11:48 EST .

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   BirdsNest  Weather all over the place!! Cool one day, hot the next. Lots of foggy mornings and days of periodic rain. Welcome Spring.

Our friend has not been back to till the garden, so I will have to do by hand the section she has already tilled. Just a matter of raking the area and planting the seeds. Checked on the asparagus row we planted last Fall, nothing yet.

I had to put the big chickens in "detention". Chicken tractors. They have had the run of the place since we brought them here and the other day I was putting down plastic on the small garden plot, I was shoveling out a trench to put the plastic end into, they were filling up the trench before I got done. I managed to forge ahead and get those 3 rows done, but they had to be confined before I plant beans. I have half of their pen covered with black mesh, given to us by a friend, but there was not enough to get the whole pen done. It's a big area. The mesh is what the clam farmers use, heavyweight and this was a 1/4" mesh, really nice. They toss it when they are done with it, and our friend grabbed it for us. I gotta call in a favor, the chickens are mad at me for their new digs.

Spent 2 hrs. repotting seedlings to bigger pots. Tomatoes(3 kinds ), marjoram,peppers(hot lemon ),eggplant, French Thyme. 144 pots in all. French Thyme has hairlike stems, thought I would lose my eyesight. I did them first.

Peas,Chard,Escarole,broccoli raab, onions, garlic-all up in the raised beds. We have 2 raised beds that need new framework. I have one ready to plant-carrots.

Did I mention that I got one huegelkulture bed done? Except for the framework, that is. I really like that, it uses an amazing amount of sticks and twigs and rotting tree limbs.

Want to get something else accomplished today, the weather will be nice and no doctor visits for Hagar til the BIG ONE on the 22nd. Several chores on the list, let's see what I manage to do.
April 10 at 07:13 EST .

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   BirdsNest  Raked the bean rows and am ready to plant, hooray!!!!!!!!!

If I have time, I will plant carrots.
April 10 at 13:37 EST .

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   Alice  You inspire me. I should get out there before Oven Season gets rolling.
April 14 at 11:50 EST .

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   MeiDei  I also have a question. We get a styrofoam box with refrigerated medical supplies every few days, I'm wondering can these boxes be used as one time use planters? If so, would they need any special treatment, i.e., liners with drain holes, some surface prep inside or out? They're approx. 12" deep x 16" long x 14" wide and an inch thick - similar to inexpensive coolers. I know you have to use a special paint for foam as most paints dissolve foam. I bet Wrightwinger would be helpful with this question too.
April 1 at 17:51 EST .

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   MeiDei  Wonderful, thank you WW.
April 1 at 22:53 EST .

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   MeiDei  OK...where did his post go?
April 2 at 07:47 EST .

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   Wrightwinger  Where they all go... Away. :-(
April 2 at 08:58 EST .

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   MeiDei  Storm's post is missing too, she had a question about plants in her flower beds.
April 2 at 11:37 EST .

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   Flaming Sword  I'm no master gardener, but here's my 2cents about styrofoam. I've seen numerous styro coolers used as planters with nothing more than drain holes punched into the bottom. My mother inlaw grew hundreds of African Violets and taught me how taught me how to propogate them in no time from one leaf.
She used egg cartons, potting mix, kept moist , and 12 babies at a time coming up in no time. She also used styro (egg cartons,coolers or otherwise )chopped up in the bottom of all her flower pots for drainage. She never had enough broken clay pots for this purpose and she had mountains of potted plants. Problems with plain old untreated styrofoam? Not from my experience. I still use it.
April 3 at 20:38 EST .

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